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RWBY Season 2?

  • From what i've seen, RWBY seems to be a one-shot deal. It seems to have just a season one. it's not even labeled season 1, episode #. i'm hoping its going to be like rvb, where they never expected to go on but they will...


    i'm saddened.

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    • Strange. It doesn't seem like a one-shot, to me.

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    • You need to watch the Livestream panel Monty, Kerry and Miles had before the start of episode 1.  They described season 1 as being made up of 'volume 1' and 'volume 2', which will likely go to more than 30 episodes.

      The whole feel of the discussion is that it will be a multi-year project.

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    • During one of the podcasts Burnie talked about walking in on Miles and Monty planning stuff for season 4/5 or so, and there was also talk of mid-season breaks and the construction of each season (X volumes per season, 12(?) chapters per volume, each consisting of 16(?) episodes, or something. I just remember lots of book terminology being used), so I'm pretty sure they plan for it to go on for a while.

      The labelling, or lack thereof, is probably just them going "Eh, screw it", given that it'd be stuff like "Season 1, Volume 1, Chapter 1, Episode 3, The Shining Beacon [Part 2]" a lot of the time. And that's ridiculously long.

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    • FWIW, at least one big studio western animation, "Dragons - Riders of Berk" is using the Japanimé trick of renaming the show every season or so to refer to the running storyline currently underway.  So, we might get RWBY for a few seasons followed by "RWBY - The Shadow of the Grimm" or "RWBY - The Fires of Malice" or something like that.

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    • When is volume two coming out?  

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    • Well Monty mentioned Gambol Shroud getting an upgrade in Season 3. So at least 3 seasons.

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    • 69.125.128.105 wrote:
      When is volume two coming out?  

      Even the people at Rooster Teeth don't know. The mid-season break is so they can make volume 2, and they want it to be really good quality but don't want to make us wait too long.

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    • Well, they've probably already worked on Volume 2. After all, they showed a shot of Roman in this episode all the way back during that Austin interview.

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    • DQueenie13 wrote:
      Well, they've probably already worked on Volume 2. After all, they showed a shot of Roman in this episode all the way back during that Austin interview.

      They finished work on Volume 1 about four weeks ago, if I'm remembering correctly. They probably took a little bit of time between, so my guess is that they're now getting into serious work on Volume 2. First of which is likely reworking the characters' rigs, and hence the dancing Jaune video.

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    • XDex wrote:
      DQueenie13 wrote:
      Well, they've probably already worked on Volume 2. After all, they showed a shot of Roman in this episode all the way back during that Austin interview.
      They finished work on Season 1 about four weeks ago, if I'm remembering correctly. They probably took a little bit of time between, so my guess is that they're now getting into serious work on Season 2. First of which is likely reworking the characters' rigs, and hence the dancing Jaune video.

      Wait, are you talking about volumes 1 and 2? Monty said the mid-season break is going to last as long as it takes for them to make volume 2, but they want to try to make sure that it doesn't take too long.

      They didn't finish work on season 1. Just volume 1.

      And yeah, the rigs are definitely going to take some time. I dunno how long it takes to make a new rig for a 3D model, but no matter how much time it takes for one model, they have quite a few models to work on. It's bittersweet.

      Bitter: Means it'll take more time, thus adding to the wait in the mid-season break

      Sweet: Better animation!

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    • Edited. I'm usually good about that, but this is now the second time that it's slipped at the worst possible spot.

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    • I suspect that bits and pieces of the entire show are already finished but they've got to make more stuff to actually make each episode.  Plus, almost every animator that I've ever talked to will say that their work is never truly done, hence the glitches that were fixed for the youtube releases or episode two shown at RTX which was only mostly done.

      By-the-way, did anyone else notice that right after Roman shoots Blake her bow magically reappears on her head?

      I just can't wait to have the entire series and watch it all at once.

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    • Gonna be a lot of teeth gritting after that episode. 

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    • Everyone now has eyes glued to Twitter, Facebook, and RT.com for any and all mentions of RWBY.

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    • Gamech4ng3r wrote:
      I suspect that bits and pieces of the entire show are already finished but they've got to make more stuff to actually make each episode.  Plus, almost every animator that I've ever talked to will say that their work is never truly done, hence the glitches that were fixed for the youtube releases or episode two shown at RTX which was only mostly done.

      By-the-way, did anyone else notice that right after Roman shoots Blake her bow magically reappears on her head?

      I just can't wait to have the entire series and watch it all at once.

      I suspect that volume 2 is already completely written and planned out, yes.

      HOWEVER... Considering that Monty is apparently giving the character models new rigs (basically, new skeletons) so that they can animate them better for better quality, I very highly doubt that they have really animated much of volume 2, if at all.

      I wonder if they'll conserve time by having the voice actors record while the animators work on making new rigs for the models.

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    • why would they record while the animators worked on new rigs (i am just wondering) wouldent it be better just to record it after everything is done.

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    • Usually you record first; that's how the animators lip-sync the models/rigs with the words that are being said.

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    • I imagine they will aim for a January premiere for the first episode of Volume 2. It makes the most sense time-wise.

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    • There is something to be said for building suspense but not  giving an indication of when we can expect volume 2 seems to me like a d*$k move - Monty et al, you have more class than that!

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    • Primsatic wrote:
      There is something to be said for building suspense but not  giving an indication of when we can expect volume 2 seems to me like a d*$k move - Monty et al, you have more class than that!

      Agreet toally. What the hell are we really going to expect? the "easter egg" at the end of episode 16 just told us that Roman is going to continue working for the White Fang and thats it. The suspense of no knowlege of what to expect is killing me!


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    • 71.113.3.27 wrote:
      why would they record while the animators worked on new rigs (i am just wondering) wouldent it be better just to record it after everything is done.

      I'm pretty sure it's easier to synch the models' mouths to what the voice actors said than to have the voice actors try to synch what they say to the models' mouths.

      Plus, it would save time instead of waiting to record voice acting until after the rigs are done. If they get both done at the same time, then all that's left is the animation part. Though, if they haven't modeled the locations yet either...

      I dunno. I'm sure they have a good plan for maximizing how much they get done within a smaller amount of time than spreading everything out.

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    • I'm still hoping that the RTAA guys will do some LOL RWBY PSAs for the hiatus.

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    • I think the 2 Cinder goons are definitely going to make the show in Season 2. Notice that they're actually just static 2D portraits in the end there, and does not have a 3D model rig yet. At least some time will be dedicated into building them - otherwise what's the point of showing them so early?

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    • Speaking of them what are we going to call them. I want to talk about the girls skin color it looked an unearthly red.

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    • Actually, it's just your normal chocolate/red colored skin. My country has lots of them, although of course their skin are either darker or lighter - only rarely someone gets that perfect skin tone.

      If I remember correctly, I think Vanessa Hudgens has that type of skin too.

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    • Ah, I am sorry if I came off as rude with that. But sense she is of a darker skin tone I hope she gets a model so not all modeled characters are pale.

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    • Zolnir wrote:
      I think the 2 Cinder goons are definitely going to make the show in Season 2. Notice that they're actually just static 2D portraits in the end there, and does not have a 3D model rig yet. At least some time will be dedicated into building them - otherwise what's the point of showing them so early?

      Volume 2..

      We already have placeholder names for them, at least. Cleo and Markus.

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    • Zolnir wrote:
      Actually, it's just your normal chocolate/red colored skin. My country has lots of them, although of course their skin are either darker or lighter - only rarely someone gets that perfect skin tone.

      If I remember correctly, I think Vanessa Hudgens has that type of skin too.


      Maybe my screen is crap, but that is pretty far from any natural human color. Far too pink. True, they've already stretched eye colors, but this just seems to stand out more, like it was intentional.

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    • Spoke to Einlee Chang at AFA 13. Unfortunately, she says her best approximation is next summer.

      This is going to be a long hiatus.

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    • next summer for volume 2 or season 2?

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    • Volume 2 unfortunately.

      Pray to the gods I am wrong and that we are getting huge quality at a sooner date.

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    • The big news will be how big the breaks will be between chapters.

      Seeing CH 02 start up early 2014 would be great, but still a pretty short timeframe if they haven't even started work on it.

      I haven't seen so much as a general ballpark for when work on RWBY is going to resume, although Monty mentioned doing some R&D work, if they haven't started work by now, we may be looking at a chapter a year, which is surprisingly slow.

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    • Wait, chapter? I thought that chapters were like the episodes. Like how Ruby Rose, or Platers and Pieces were their own chapters, and Juanedice Parts 1 and 2 were one chapter. Or is it something else?

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    • 42.60.191.72 wrote:
      Spoke to Einlee Chang at AFA 13. Unfortunately, she says her best approximation is next summer.

      This is going to be a long hiatus.

      She is probably not the one to talk to about that, though. I sincerely doubt they are going to make us wait that long for the second half of the season.

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    • Season two will be filled but nothing but Jaune. and his cousin juane.

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    • 50.121.80.176 wrote:
      Season two will be filled but nothing but Jaune. and his cousin juane.

      And their friends: Rwby, Whice, and Lie.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      42.60.191.72 wrote:
      Spoke to Einlee Chang at AFA 13. Unfortunately, she says her best approximation is next summer.

      This is going to be a long hiatus.

      She is probably not the one to talk to about that, though. I sincerely doubt they are going to make us wait that long for the second half of the season.

      Especially considering that Monty didn't even want to give a definite answer.

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    • Well, it wouldn't really be a break between seasons if they're just going to start airing in July just like for Vol. 1. Might as well just call it a season in that case. 

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    • IT'S NOT A BREAK BETWEEN SEASONS. It's a break in the MIDDLE OF SEASON 1. Mid-season break. We're done with VOLUME 1, not season 1. Next is volume 2. When we're finished with volume 2, THEN we'll be done with season 1.

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    • FWIW, a July/August start to Season 2 (Volume 3) sounds about right to me.

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    • Whoops that was my bad. I meant volume there. 

      What I meant to say was that if they were going to have such a long break between volumes, they might as well call it season 2 instead of volume two.

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    • Ohhh. I try not to slip up so I won't further confuse people who don't know. XP Yeah. I really hope we won't have to wait like half a year, but you never know..

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    • Well, Chisio, if I wait half a year and get to watch 16 15 minutes long Episodes...

      I can die happy. Half a year be damned I'LL WAIT.

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    • Yeah, so unless there are some MAJOR improvements, I will be expecting the volume to start up sooner than summer. 

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    • Either way, it's:

      Truth
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    • Sorairo wrote:
      Yeah, so unless there are some MAJOR improvements, I will be expecting the volume to start up sooner than summer. 

      Well, there are going to be some major improvements anyway if Monty's little updates are any indication. Let's face it, RWBY has had pretty stiff and choppy animation this first volume. It will look a lot better with the improvements they are making. Thankfully, we will likely get a major improvement in the look without having to wait half a year. Granted, not as major as they could manage with half a year to work, but having smooth and fluid animation is a pretty significant improvement.

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    • I don't think we will get something till around late winter or spring. RWBY fell along with the summer-fall airings of shows and they take brakes till spring.

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    • Seriously, I think people should look at some time in January for Volume 2 to start. They have been doing some prep work on the animation for the past few weeks and they still have two months before the new year. I would not be surprised if they get done prepping improvements to the animation by the end of this month and start work on Volume 2 in December, assuming they do not get some of the work going sooner (writing and voice-acting).

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    • I doubt Monty will be able to get used to not working on RWBY anyway.

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    • My guess (hope? DREAM?) is somewhere between January 20th and March 20th.

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    • He is already working on it whenever he has free time

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    • Yep, the 'dancing Jaune' was a test of the new character rig so work is progressing apace, methinks.

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    • Monty posted on his twitter that he has set up a workstation in his hotel room today and what was on his computer screen was somthing with Yang

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    • January sounds fine. Honestly, once we get a definite date, I'll be happy. 

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    • https://twitter.com/montyoum/status/399881974560477184/photo/1/large

      Hmmmm. Damn you, screens, and not letting cameras take good pictures of you!

      Think he's been working on Yang's rig?

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    • It certainly looks like Yang. I think we're going to see a general upgrade in all the rigs in Volume Two.

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    • judging by the time it takes for them to animate episodes and the rate that they release other seasons for RvB I'm pretty sure the break would last around 2-4 months tops not maybe a little sooner

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    • Calamity Y wrote:
      During one of the podcasts Burnie talked about walking in on Miles and Monty planning stuff for season 4/5 or so, and there was also talk of mid-season breaks and the construction of each season (X volumes per season, 12(?) chapters per volume, each consisting of 16(?) episodes, or something. I just remember lots of book terminology being used), so I'm pretty sure they plan for it to go on for a while.

      The labelling, or lack thereof, is probably just them going "Eh, screw it", given that it'd be stuff like "Season 1, Volume 1, Chapter 1, Episode 3, The Shining Beacon [Part 2]" a lot of the time. And that's ridiculously long.


      Well given that there are 4-7 Episodes per chapter and Techniquely 3 chapters per volume The beginning and ending and 2 midchapters. So you'd have 2 volumes per season. But the terminology makes sense. Because it seems they put it that way. Sure for laughts Burnie and Monty Please do it lol.


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    • Up above Was by Bug

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    • ^^ Nope. 10 chapters in Volume 1. You're confusing them with plot arcs or something.

      Chapters are the 10-13 minute sections. Episode 8 for example was a full chapter, whereas episodes 11 and 12 combined to make a chapter.

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    • Plot arcs in Volume 1:

      • Ruby arriving at Beacon - Chapters 1, 2
      • Beacon Induction Test - Chapters 3 - 5
      • Ruby/Weiss Character Interaction - Chapters 2 - 6
      • Beginning of Classes - Chapters 6 - 8
      • Jaune Character Development - Chapter 7, 8
      • Faunus History - Chapters 8 - 10
      • Blake Character Development - Chaptes 9, 10
      • Meta-Plot Arc - Prologue, Chapters 1, 5, 10 and Epilogue
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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      Strange. It doesn't seem like a one-shot, to me.

      I agree. They have too many side stories running to let it be only a one season. Some examples being: In Yellow's Introduction video before the actual release, she is looking for someone. Who? 2nd: Who was Weiss fighting, and why? 3rd: Who was that other ninja in the Black intro video, and why did black just say "Goodbye"? Biggest and most important of all: Who is that mystery lady with the fiery eyes in episodes 1 and 16? Also, they have mentioned a tournament and other storylines with Roman and Penny, and also, in the intro of every episode it shows what appears to be Ruby with Weiss in front of a grave. Who is in the grave? I also sense a budding relationship between Jean and Pyhra... Just saying.

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    • Well, guys, they did a presentation, now on YouTube, in Melbourne, Australia. They've got a new Physics engine. So, at least one more season.

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    • Actually, it was confirmed from day one that there would be a Volume 2, so there never was a doubt about that.

      Anyway, was there ever any doubt that it would go beyond season 1? It's getting views faster (on Youtube at least) than RvB did in its prime! RWBY has the potential to grow in popularity far bigger than anything RT has ever done.

      I'd say we have at least 10 volumes coming our way. Who knows, maybe even 10 seasons?

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    • Yeah, I've heard that they've planned 3 seasons, maybe even 5. Consider the fact that we're only halfway through season 1, and that's quite a lot of future RWBY.

      Hey, Flashfire, mind linking to the presentation?

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    • Course not. I was there in person. It was Monty and Jordan, and a lot of it was about the animation setup, but around 35 minutes or so onwards, it goes to Monty showing his animation setup. Poor video quality, I'm afraid, but there wasn't much else they could do. It's reasonably long, as well, but at least I got a signed RWBY poster, signed by both. Monty's signature looks awesome, by the way.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1lNSidRkJ0&feature=youtu.be

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    • Hmm, should I add that video to a separate thread, make it a new topic for discussion? It's kinda long and mixed in RWBY content, but a lot of what Monty says makes sense.

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    • I'm surprised that the models aren't cel shaded. O_O I thought they were.

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    • Yeah, I'm going to start a new thread, with that video as the central point of the discussion.

      Also, at the point where he says "no, it's not the gun-gun" to a shouted response from the audience, that was me. The one that Jordan said made no sense (and then called the person who said that Barbara) was my friend. Not right now, though. Fanfics and other projects need me.

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    • well...one chapter down,9 more to go

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    • 202.156.9.10 wrote:
      well...one chapter down,9 more to go

      Eh?

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    • 202.156.9.10 wrote:
      well...one chapter down,9 more to go

      There are 10 chapters per volume.. We've already gotten through all the chapters of volume 1.

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    • Hopefully more than 9 volumes. 

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    • Given what we've seen from RvB in the past("ending" the series multiple times, but continuously bring it back by popular demand), I'd expect more than that.

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    • Yeah, I expect to see plenty of volumes in the future going from the fan reaction to RWBY alone.

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    • Very true

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    • Volume 1 and 2 are mostly exposition.

      We've lean about who's who and in which team in Beacon. Who's the baddies. Semblance and aura.

      Volume 2 we will learn about the 4 kingdoms, some personal background about our heroes, the War, The Faunus war and the baddies intention.

      Season 2. Will be about the darkness and the gathering of evil. Probable also who's behind Cinder and the first year's plot. After that I need more info, it's still early.

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    • I hope we get more background for characters that haven't been covered much yet. Call me weird, but I'm really hoping for a Yang-centric episode. 

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      I hope we get more background for characters that haven't been covered much yet. Call me weird, but I'm really hoping for a Yang-centric episode. 

      Thiiiiis!

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      I hope we get more background for characters that haven't been covered much yet. Call me weird, but I'm really hoping for a Yang-centric episode. 

      QFT! We really need to know more about Yang's background. (Not to mention that might clear up some of the arguements about how she and Ruby are related)

      I also want an episode revealing more about Ren and Nora at some stage.

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    • Now, I kind of want there to be a scene during the festival, where Ruby, Blake, and Weiss suddenly realize that Yang disappeared, and meanwhile, Yang whips out her phone, showing someone the photo, and asking if he's seen that woman. All because she noticed him while she was walking with the rest of the team, she knows he has info on stuff, and she knows there's no telling when she'll get another opportunity to talk to him.

      So, it's like, Team RWBY is just walking along in a crowd, talking about something, but then Yang notices the guy and stops walking. The camera keeps following the rest of Team RWBY, though, and when one of them goes to say something to Yang, they notice she's not there. They turn around to look, the camera pans... and she's gone. Ruby: "Yang? Where'd she go...?"

      Cut to her conversation with the guy, and afterward, she shows back up out of nowhere with funnelcake and cotton candy, pretending that's why she disappeared. :D Ruby: "COTTON CANDY! *Hugs bag* YOU KNEW!!!"

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    • Flashfire212 wrote:

      QFT! We really need to know more about Yang's background. (Not to mention that might clear up some of the arguements about how she and Ruby are related)

      I imagine they will do a shout-out to the fans in such an episode. One of the other characters will be all "So, uh, you're sisters but you have different last names? What's that about?" or something to that effect to elicit the viewer response of "that's exactly what we've been wanting to know this whole damn time!"

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    • And it will clear up whether she has a fire based semblance, or uses Dust shampoo! And why her eyes change color.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:

      I imagine they will do a shout-out to the fans in such an episode. One of the other characters will be all "So, uh, you're sisters but you have different last names? What's that about?" or something to that effect to elicit the viewer response of "that's exactly what we've been wanting to know this whole damn time!" 

      ^ This, although that doesn't sound like something that Monty would do. Oh, and here's an idea for a cool episode(s): Team RWBY gets seperated in some dangerous place, and then the next four episodes are each centered on one of the girls, told from their POV. Like the part right after Ruby lands in the Emerald Forest, but for an entire episode, for all four of them.  

      But I digress. I'm still confused as to how volumes and seasons work, and there doesn't appear to be an answer on this Wiki. A little help, please?

      Are Volumes and Seasons the same thing? If not, which is the larger one, and how many Volumes go in a Season (or vice versa)? How long are the breaks betweeen shared Volumes and/or Seasons, if they even have a set time? Whats coming next, Season two or Volume two? Or, more simply: What's the difference?

      I'm sorry, I'm just confused right now.

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    • Volumes and seasons are not the same thing. A volume is an arbritary sub-set of a season.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      Volumes and seasons are not the same thing. A volume is an arbritary sub-set of a season.

      Alright, thanks.

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    • Yeah, basically season 1 is split into two volumes. We have finished volume 1, so next is volume 2. Once volume 2 is done, we move on to season 2.

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote:

      ^ This, although that doesn't sound like something that Monty would do. Oh, and here's an idea for a cool episode(s): Team RWBY gets seperated in some dangerous place, and then the next four episodes are each centered on one of the girls, told from their POV. Like the part right after Ruby lands in the Emerald Forest, but for an entire episode, for all four of them.  

      Segments like that are actually really good if done well--think the A:TLA episode The Storm or The Avatar and the Fire Lord. I would totally expect RWBY to do something like that as well. 

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:

      Andrew S-997 wrote:

      ^ This, although that doesn't sound like something that Monty would do. Oh, and here's an idea for a cool episode(s): Team RWBY gets seperated in some dangerous place, and then the next four episodes are each centered on one of the girls, told from their POV. Like the part right after Ruby lands in the Emerald Forest, but for an entire episode, for all four of them.  

      Segments like that are actually really good if done well--think the A:TLA episode The Storm or The Avatar and the Fire Lord. I would totally expect RWBY to do something like that as well. 

      Don't forget the episode on Ember Island, to explore the team mechanic. I could see RWBY doing something similar to that. I mean, group of four...

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    • Oh, that was one of my favorite eps. Could definitely be used as a device to win back Adam if he comes back into the protagonist fold. 

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    • All I know is I'm psyched about RWBY and hope it won't take too long for the next volume!

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote:

      ^ This, although that doesn't sound like something that Monty would do.

      Well, they already did something like it with Blake. That whole "So you want to know more about me" line was a total shout-out to the fans.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      FWIW, at least one big studio western animation, "Dragons - Riders of Berk" is using the Japanimé trick of renaming the show every season or so to refer to the running storyline currently underway.  So, we might get RWBY for a few seasons followed by "RWBY - The Shadow of the Grimm" or "RWBY - The Fires of Malice" or something like that.

      RWBY-The White Darkness (white fang working with roman) p.s. should the white fang be thought of as the Red fang? or how about Red Claw? since their flag is red now and has claw marks?

      RWBY- A heroines story (backstories for the main characters, very detailed and emotional)

      or how about

      RWBY- a christmas special, or something like that.  its almost christmas, there should be a christmas special, or equivelant to christmas in the RWB  this being an excuse for monty to absolutely tease the Sh#t out of the shippers, never directly confirming or denying, but always hinting at a larger picture.

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    • 58.164.129.168 wrote:

      RWBY- a christmas special, or something like that.  its almost christmas, there should be a christmas special, or equivelant to christmas in the RWB  this being an excuse for monty to absolutely tease the Sh#t out of the shippers, never directly confirming or denying, but always hinting at a larger picture.

      If Monty had the time to spare, this would be the thing to do, assuming that Christmas exists in the RWBYverse.

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    • Maybe Monty (in his wisdom) will do a "Remnant History and Lore" kind of thing like Game of Thrones. That's certainly what I'm hoping for. 

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    • 58.164.129.168 wrote:

      RWBY-The White Darkness (white fang working with roman) p.s. should the white fang be thought of as the Red fang? or how about Red Claw? since their flag is red now and has claw marks?

      No, I think they should definitely still be called the White Fang. It's a reference to the book White Fang, by Jack London, in which a wolf named White Fang ends up turning vicious, cunning, and violent due to being pushed around, beaten down, and treated like dirt.

      In RWBY, the White Fang underwent the same transformation as that wolf did.

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    • I actually thought that was a roundabout reference to the Black Panthers, but Jack London makes more sense. 

      Now I want to see an Into the Wild reference. 

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    • Into the Wild could have some great referances. I also want a Frankenstein referance, not the movie, the orginal book. 

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    • Well, According to Jessica Nigri, she will be voiing one of the character, and the character she said she is voicing has not appeared in the series thus far. So, I assume a season 2 is coming.

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    • She did appear in the series....

      She's voicing Cinder.

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    • I am hoping season 2 starts with a 20 - 30 minute episode seing as we have not hade a fresh one in alomost a month 

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    • FastFlyer wrote:
      I am hoping season 2 starts with a 20 - 30 minute episode seing as we have not hade a fresh one in alomost a month 

      I think we all want that, but it's unlikely. It'll probably be a full episode, so 10-15 mins.

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    • the next thing we'll see when volume 2 starts will be a background episode on either Weiss or Ruby

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote:
      FastFlyer wrote:
      I am hoping season 2 starts with a 20 - 30 minute episode seing as we have not hade a fresh one in alomost a month 
      I think we all want that, but it's unlikely. It'll probably be a full episode, so 10-15 mins.

      thats what i was thinking

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    • A 12 and a half minute episode would be most likely, though they may try to treat us with one slightly longer. Nothing more than 15 minutes, though, most likely.

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    • maybe next season, they could all have upgrades to their equipment, I know somewhere above, they mentioned Blake getting a weapon upgrade in season 3, but what if it isn't a weapon upgrade?

      in Weiss's trailer, she seemed to be able to have greater aerial movement with her skirt, with it acting as a sort of brake in mid air, maybe the rest of the girls could have a sort of boost as well? maybe Ozpin could do something to Blake's cloths to make them catch on fire safely? or with Ruby, something to increase her speed even further? or stealth gear for Blake? what other upgrades do you think they could have?

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    • Zathronas wrote:
      the next thing we'll see when volume 2 starts will be a background episode on either Weiss or Ruby

      Hopefully. We've gotten surprisingly little background information about Ruby. Or Yang, for that matter. Maybe this might finally resolve the issue about their family. 

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    • 123.211.144.30 wrote:
      maybe next season, they could all have upgrades to their equipment, I know somewhere above, they mentioned Blake getting a weapon upgrade in season 3, but what if it isn't a weapon upgrade?

      in Weiss's trailer, she seemed to be able to have greater aerial movement with her skirt, with it acting as a sort of brake in mid air, maybe the rest of the girls could have a sort of boost as well? maybe Ozpin could do something to Blake's cloths to make them catch on fire safely? or with Ruby, something to increase her speed even further? or stealth gear for Blake? what other upgrades do you think they could have?

      Remember, we're not even finished with season 1. Next is volume 2, which is the second half of season 1.

      After that is season 2. So, season 3 is actually kind of a while away.

      Also, it wouldn't make sense for them to get weapon upgrades in volume 2. Volume 2 is likely going to include the tournament.

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    • Rooster teeth are evil.....they are planning on taking over the world by withholding RWBY season 2. ; ;

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    • It's a possibility, I admit.

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    • 75.14.223.62 wrote:
      Rooster teeth are evil.....they are planning on taking over the world by withholding RWBY season 2. ; ;

      Volume* 2, and they're not withholding, it they're making it. XP

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    • And then they'll withhold Adam. 

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    • You don't know that. World domination awaits...

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    • That's Bungie's agenda, I think. But I guess it wouldn't be too far for RT to go for it as well. 

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      And then they'll withhold Adam. 

      ARG. He is in the intro -sorta- so we might get him soon.

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    • I mean, most everyone is 99% sure that Adam will show up, it's just the question of when that RT is tormenting us with. 

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    • Exactly. "So, you want to know more about me..." *Episode end*

      Everyone: OMG FLASHBACK NEXT EPISODE ADAM IS COMING

      • Flashback but no Adam*

      Everyone: Oh.. ;_;

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    • I'm sure Bungie gave RT a few helpful hints.

      And I want something - anything - on Adam. He seems like he's got an interesting story that RT is just not telling us right now. I'm hoping that he's a little more important to the White Fang then we think, just to make the whole Blake-leaving thing that much more important.

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    • Not only that, but Adam really has the potential to be a true Wild Card character. If Blake's desertion really affected him that badly, then he might have cut ties with WF out of disgust. Or maybe Blake leaving hardened him, making Adam even more loyal to the cause. 

      We really have no idea what to expect from Adam when he shows up in the reular series. 

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      Exactly. "So, you want to know more about me..." *Episode end*

      Everyone: OMG FLASHBACK NEXT EPISODE ADAM IS COMING

      • Flashback but no Adam*

      Everyone: Oh.. ;_;

      This started with freaking Forever Fall, where we last saw him but no Adam.

      And he can be a true Wild Card. If he hates humans as much as it seems, given we've only known him for roughly six minutes, then he might not like working with them, and as Angren said we have to factor how he felt when Blake left into the problem but we won't know anything till he shows. arg.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      Exactly. "So, you want to know more about me..." *Episode end*

      Everyone: OMG FLASHBACK NEXT EPISODE ADAM IS COMING

      • Flashback but no Adam*

      Everyone: Oh.. ;_;

      well there was a reference to adam in the episode before.

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    • ChishioKunrin

      i didnt mean weapon upgrades, i meant equipment,  such as changing the outfits to have better abilities, eg. making Ruby more speedy, etc. and the only weapons i meantioned were about what as already stated above, that blake would have a weapon upgrad in season 3,

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    • 121.222.193.8 wrote:
      ChishioKunrin

      i didnt mean weapon upgrades, i meant equipment,  such as changing the outfits to have better abilities, eg. making Ruby more speedy, etc. and the only weapons i meantioned were about what as already stated above, that blake would have a weapon upgrad in season 3,

      Typically, if you get an equipment upgrade that affects your abilities, you're not going to want it to be right before a tournament. You'll want enough time to practice using it and get used to the enhancements rather than trying to quickly get used to it in a period of a few days (considering the tournament is during the Vytal Festival, and that festival is apparently about to begin).

      Maybe if the festival and tournament don't take up the entirety of volume 2 and they get equipment upgrades after the tournament, sure. Otherwise, I don't think there will be upgrades in volume 2.

      And I hope you caught what I said about Season 1 not being over yet.

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    • Volume 2 I'd think to be the tournament

      Season 2 pt 1: Plot

      Season 2 pt 2: Their weapons have a reason to be upgraded, ex the blade of Gambol Shorud breaks (this towards the end)

      Season 3 pt 1: Upgrades

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    • The LostWhisperer wrote:
      Volume 2 I'd think to be the tournament

      Season 2 pt 1: Plot

      Season 2 pt 2: Their weapons have a reason to be upgraded, ex the blade of Gambol Shorud breaks (this towards the end)

      Season 3 pt 1: Upgrades

      The tournament is part of the plot. This is where we'll learn about the 4 kingdoms. This will be important for later

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    • Gambol shroud is the only one slated for an upgrade so far. the others, maybe, but then maybe not. Also, looking at it, Gambol almost seems cobbled together rather than made of specific parts, especially the hilt, which is basicly just a pistol bolted to a sword. That might be part of the reason for the upgrade..

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    • 13th madman wrote:
      Gambol shroud is the only one slated for an upgrade so far. the others, maybe, but then maybe not. Also, looking at it, Gambol almost seems cobbled together rather than made of specific parts, especially the hilt, which is basicly just a pistol bolted to a sword. That might be part of the reason for the upgrade..

      Like, if it's something that Blake threw together while in the White Fang, rather than professionally being made with instruction from a weapons teacher? So she got a sword, maybe it had that folding blade already or maybe she managed to put that together herself.. attached a pistol to it, put a ribbon on the pistol, and got a sharpened cleaver shieth.

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    • Gambol Shroud does strike me as being particularly unsuited for monster-slaying. Seems it would be very effective at killing people . . . . but not monsters.

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    • @ 13th madman, The Devil's Advocate WP,

      Gambol Shroud has about the same blade width as Crocea Mors and Jaune was able to behead a Giant Ursa with his sword. I've no doubt that Gambol Shroud, being a single-edged saber and owned by a professional, is even sharper.

      With regard to the gun mode, Storm Flowers has already proven that pistol-calibre guns are pretty much useless against Grimm. Unless they're both upgraded to at least .357 magnum or even .440, those modes are mostly for show. FWIW, I suspect that Gambol Shroud's pistol is probably optimised to propel the weapon in 'chain scythe' mode and isn't anticipated to be used offensively except as a last resort.

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    • BenRG wrote: With regard to the gun mode, Storm Flowers has already proven that pistol-calibre guns are pretty much useless against Grimm. Unless they're both upgraded to at least .357 magnum or even .440, those modes are mostly for show. FWIW, I suspect that Gambol Shroud's pistol is probably optimised to propel the weapon in 'chain scythe' mode and isn't anticipated to be used offensively except as a last resort.

      Or, it could be the type of ammunition he was using. We know very little about the Storm Flowers, so the type of ammunition fired from those kinds of guns might have more effect, such as specific colours or types of dust.

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    • And did Ren ever actually use the blade function on Storm Flower?

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    • Twice that I've seen - Once he stabbed a King Taijiu in the head and once across a Giant Death Stalker's face to distract it from Nora.

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    • Oh, I forgot about the Deathstalker, but I thought he just used the fang on the King Taijitu. I'll have to watch Volume 1 again. 

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    • And his landing strategy. But it does seem like his Aura is a MUCH more effective weapon. That's part of why I want JNPR trailers, see just how capable all of them are on their own, and some of their finishing moves and fancy tricks.

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    • They might be released on the side. Maybe not  for  volume two, but to create hype for it. 

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    • BenRG wrote:
      @ 13th madman, The Devil's Advocate WP,

      Gambol Shroud has about the same blade width as Crocea Mors and Jaune was able to behead a Giant Ursa with his sword. I've no doubt that Gambol Shroud, being a single-edged saber and owned by a professional, is even sharper.

      With regard to the gun mode, Storm Flowers has already proven that pistol-calibre guns are pretty much useless against Grimm. Unless they're both upgraded to at least .357 magnum or even .440, those modes are mostly for show. FWIW, I suspect that Gambol Shroud's pistol is probably optimised to propel the weapon in 'chain scythe' mode and isn't anticipated to be used offensively except as a last resort.

      Obviously, it can kill a Grimm, but it just seems impractical for that purpose.

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    • In terms of the Storm Flowers, I simply see it as a problem when your blades are more effective than your bullets. I would be interested, though, to see if Ren has a super-badass weapon ammo, like Yang's red shells, Ruby's cross-clips, and Weiss's white dust.

      On the topic of Gambol shroud - It always seemed a little weak compared to the rest of team RWBY's weapons. It's a pistol... on a whip. I mean, Ruby's got a .50 Cal, Yang has frag round-shooting guantlets, and Weiss literally has the power of nature incarnite. The sword-pistol-whip idea just doesn't stack up. Point is, I feel like if it was anyone other than Blake fighting Roman in Episode 16, they could've beat him easily. Even with heavy use of her Semblance and help from Sun, Blake still essentially lost, and Penny had to save the day.

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    • You're right, I was kind of disappointed by that. I don't think Blake is really suited for one-on-one encounters, though (that, or Roman is way the hell stronger than we all think). I mean, Kerry said she was a ninja--by holding Roman at swordpoint, she lost the element of surprise. 

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      You're right, I was kind of disappointed by that. I don't think Blake is really suited for one-on-one encounters, though (that, or Roman is way the hell stronger than we all think). I mean, Kerry said she was a ninja--by holding Roman at swordpoint, she lost the element of surprise. 

      Keep in mind that at the time she just discovered that the white fang was working with( in Blake's eye's) a common thief.She wasn't looking for a fight.She was looking for a explanation.

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    • Exactly. That's why she didn't do so well--she wasn't expecting a fight. That, and I think Blake just fares better against hordes of underlings, rather than single skilled opponents; source: the Black Trailer. 

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    • 76.78.130.18 wrote:
      ChishioKunrin wrote:
      Strange. It doesn't seem like a one-shot, to me.
      I agree. They have too many side stories running to let it be only a one season. Some examples being: In Yellow's Introduction video before the actual release, she is looking for someone. Who? 2nd: Who was Weiss fighting, and why? 3rd: Who was that other ninja in the Black intro video, and why did black just say "Goodbye"? Biggest and most important of all: Who is that mystery lady with the fiery eyes in episodes 1 and 16? Also, they have mentioned a tournament and other storylines with Roman and Penny, and also, in the intro of every episode it shows what appears to be Ruby with Weiss in front of a grave. Who is in the grave? I also sense a budding relationship between Jean and Pyhra... Just saying.

      wait wait wait... "in the intro of every episode it shows what appears to be Ruby with Weiss in front of a grave."  1.That is clearly not Weiss. 2. It is from the "Red" trailor. and 3. Did you even do research before you posted? We have already speculated that it is either a relative, lover, or (the one people are most leaning towards) Ruby's mother.

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      I think Blake just fares better against hordes of underlings, rather than single skilled opponents; source: the Black Trailer. 

      Agreed. But again, I feel like Ruby and Yang could do the same (Weiss is more suited for the one-on-ones, because Myrtenaster's dust is a really heavy hitter) while still being able to win against skilled opponents. In fact, I know that they could. The Red and Yellow trailers prove that.

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    • Well, I think that's the class system at work there. Ruby and Yang are fairly versatile, whereas Weiss and Blake are specialized. 

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    • I never really thought about it in terms of a class system. I just stopped at ".50-Cal sythe and Frag-round shotgun guantlets beat everything". I mean, really. All team RWBY needs now is a Tank, and they would be literally indestructible. Because, Tank beats everything!

      But now that you mention it, yeah, I can see Blake and Weiss doing special assignments and the like. I'm just going to say, though, that the weapons in RWBY still entertain me, just because they exist. They're just too awesome.

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      You're right, I was kind of disappointed by that. I don't think Blake is really suited for one-on-one encounters, though (that, or Roman is way the hell stronger than we all think). I mean, Kerry said she was a ninja--by holding Roman at swordpoint, she lost the element of surprise. 

      That is probably why her weapon isn't particularly ideal for monster fighting. She is all about stealth kills and that can kill a monster without heavy power, but you really cannot fight a whole bunch of monsters that way. Blake would probably do well against a pack of smaller Grimm, such as Beowolves, but I am pretty sure that had she not gotten the drop on the Ursa in the Emerald Forest that she would not have been too capable of stopping it.

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    • The same sort of classing applies to Team JNPR, when you think about it. Nora and Pyrrha really seem to be generalist fighters, with their weapons fitting similar destructive roles to Crescent Rose and Ember Celica.

      Jaune and Ren, on the other hand... Ren and Blake fit the same sort of assassin or stealth role, since his weapons are small-calibre and his most powerful skills fall into close combat. Unlike Weiss's support role, however, Jaune fits a tactician and tank place for the team, absorbing damage from the more frail teammembers and coming up with methods for the four to work together. Yes, I'm aware this has already been discussed, but I could see Ren receiving similar special operations and tasks to Blake, considering their specialties.

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    • It would be cool if Ren and Blake worked together on some kind of secret, undercover ninja mission. Then we'd have a Ren and Blake centered episode or two. I'd like that.

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    • Well, then the RenXBlake contingent would be going full force. It seems there can't be much done without bringing ships into the mix. 

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      Well, then the RenXBlake contingent would be going full force. It seems there can't be much done without bringing ships into the mix. 


      I'm a beacon ship. Everybody nekkid!

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    • I think that ships are always going to be inherit in speculation. That being said, I really don't mind most ships. 

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    • The mainstream ones all make a certain degree of sense, I suppose. 

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    • but until Monty says anything definite we will still be in the dark about the canon ships, remember, one of the voice actors supposedly told one of the commenters over twitter that there will be couples in the show

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      I've heard from someone that the next season of RWBY will be released in the next 3 weeks. (Today is 07/12/2013), I hope that this is all true, because I'm dying without my Thursday dose of RWBY.

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    • 1.121.141.239 wrote:
      but until Monty says anything definite we will still be in the dark about the canon ships, remember, one of the voice actors supposedly told one of the commenters over twitter that there will be couples in the show

      That would be fantastic! I absolutely love relationships and everything alike. I'd imagine that two of these people will be the first relationship: Lie Ren and Nora Valkyrie, Jaune Arc and Pyrrah Nikos, or Blake Belladonna and Sun Wukong.

      On the subject of the next RWBY, I've heard from someone that the next season of RWBY will be released in the next 3 weeks. (Today is 07/12/2013), I hope that this is all true, because I'm dying without my Thursday dose of RWBY.

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    • On the subject of the next RWBY, I've heard from someone that the next season of RWBY will be released in the next 3 weeks. (Today is 07/12/2013), I hope that this is all true, because I'm dying without my Thursday dose of RWBY.

      I highly doubt this, friend. Even with all the base work out of the way, something like this is still very difficult to do and they want to fix all the issues they had for volume 1. (rendering cubes, incomplete models, and floating characters being the most prominent)

      the best we could hope for is probably a new trailer

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    • Eres - Mistress of Illusions wrote:

      On the subject of the next RWBY, I've heard from someone that the next season of RWBY will be released in the next 3 weeks. (Today is 07/12/2013), I hope that this is all true, because I'm dying without my Thursday dose of RWBY.

      I highly doubt this, friend. Even with all the base work out of the way, something like this is still very difficult to do and they want to fix all the issues they had for volume 1. (rendering cubes, incomplete models, and floating characters being the most prominent)

      the best we could hope for is probably a new trailer

      Probably. I'm sure thats what the person I heard from meant, but wouldn't it be a bit difficult making a trailer for a season? I'm not quite sure how that would work, because there wouldn't be any clips from Season 2 released at the time, would you use bits and pieces from the last season? If so, wouldn't that make it a season 1 trailer too?

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    • you do remember the four "trailers" from the first volume 1, right?

      i was thinking of something along those lines

      maybe not exactly like the first four, but just something to get us really pumped up and satisfy our need for RWBY a little bit

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    • Ah, well, that would be pretty good, and I'm sure many people would be very very happy, and if the trailer would be released sometime near Christmas, that would make so many more people happy, and love their holidays.

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      Well, then the RenXBlake contingent would be going full force. It seems there can't be much done without bringing ships into the mix. 

      You called?

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    • KejsareZael wrote:
      Ah, well, that would be pretty good, and I'm sure many people would be very very happy, and if the trailer would be released sometime near Christmas, that would make so many more people happy, and love their holidays.

      Just as long as it's something

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    • We know that Monty is testing rigs and has the new physics engine running... somewhat... although Yang's chest sensitivity is a touch higher than I'd expected... (the jiggles, people. Not being perverted, but watch the "RT Animated Recap", and try not to be distracted when Yang speaks)

      Plus, Monty was hinting in his Melbourne talk that he was working on something, although there's no way to say that it's a second round of trailers (Probably team JNPR or CRDL, if not the antics of team RWBY) or Volume 2 itself (which he has already animated stuff for, considering he doesn't follow a direct workflow as such, with things like Sun's weapon being designed around the time of the Red trailer)

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    • forget that, bits of all the models are see through. look at the thing on Yang's waist, and I think Blake's weapon at the end as well.

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    • Reading through some Chinese RWBY Fanfics. I can't believe I forgot that the Chinese texts are crazily sweet when they're used to describe emotions.

      Gaaaawwwd my heart's melting literally at the Ruby x Weiss scenes.

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    • Flashfire212 wrote:
      considering he doesn't follow a direct workflow as such

      I have to say that Monty is the most stereotypical 'arty' person whose work I've followed in any level of detail. It's interesting that he's left-handed; it's often said that southpaws are more eccentrically artistic in general because the creative rather than the analytical parts of their brains are dominant.

      A possible start date at the beginning of January is, FWIW, fairly in with my own expectations, with the season concluding in March/April and a 3-month inter-season hiatus.

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    • But do you think we would all survive such a break? At present, it's looking fairly doubtful. 

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    • Whoops! Brain derp detected! My previous post has been corrected; sorry about that!

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    • Okay, that's better. I was worried for a second. 

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    • Yeah, I figured Ben may have meant Season 2 would begin in July, since this thread is technically titled "RWBY Season 2?" I knew he was not suggesting we would have to wait seven to eight months for more RWBY. That would be torture.

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    • Well, if we DID need to wait  that long... I don't like to think of it. We would all be shipping pink and writing crossover fanfics.

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    • ImposterParrotGrass wrote: Well, if we DID need to wait  that long... I don't like to think of it. We would all be shipping pink and writing crossover fanfics.

      Wait, you mean we weren't supposed to have started that yet?

      *Proceeds to delete the early drafts of the Bleach/RWBY crossover fanfic born of boredom, and tries to remove the mental picture of Weiss having a girl-crush on Ruby*

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    • it's a choice of the fanbase. I'd write different things first, but you can start any time you want..

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    • Flashfire212 wrote:

      ...tries to remove the mental picture of Weiss having a girl-crush on Ruby*

      Yeah, good luck with that. 

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    • 13th madman wrote: it's a choice of the fanbase. I'd write different things first, but you can start any time you want..

      It was a draft. And I never finished designing Ruby's bankai. I've already got one RWBY fanfic, don't quite need another yet.

      Andrew S-997 wrote: Yeah, good luck with that.

      Nah, it's in my normal fanfic, so I'd rather not.

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    • Flashfire212 wrote:

      Nah, it's in my normal fanfic, so I'd rather not.

      Even if you wanted to, I doubt that you could. I know that I couldn't.

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    • Sorry, I didn't mean to offend, I was just saying that's the kind of thing I would do when I get desperate.

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote: Even if you wanted to, I doubt that you could. I know that I couldn't.

      Oh, I know. I find it easier to forget images from Monochrome or Bumblebee, but Pink has a habit of sticking to your brain.

      ImposterParrotGrass wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean to offend, I was just saying that's the kind of thing I would do when I get desperate.

      Eh, it's fine. I meant it more as a joke, because that's how it started - the fanfic came from a stupid joke I made, then thought "that might work". But my standard fanfiction and original works are more what I want to be writing.

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    • I didn't mean it like that.

      It actually makes sense, when you think about it.

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    • Flashfire212 wrote:  I find it easier to forget images from Monochrome or Bumblebee, but Pink has a habit of sticking to your brain.

      This is more of what I was going for. Because Pink clicks in my mind, for some reason.

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    • But we digress. Seriously. 

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    • Suprised? 

      This break...

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    • So, when do we all think it will come back?

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    • I'm hoping for mid-February... as long as they fix the animation bugs. Oh, and the stupid stuff, like Yang's guantlets being on, then off, then on again, and Blake's bow re-appearing in mid-combat with Roman. Those things really bother me.

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    • Ah, the little details. I think noticing those is actually a good thing--it's the sign of a dedicated fan. I swear, every time I watch Lord of The Rings, I see something different. 

      And I watch the trilogy twice a year. 

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    • I felt that way when I read the Eragon books through again recently. Always noticing something different.

      Now, RWBY isn't LOTR (4 hours long a piece, with a budget ranging in the hundreds of millions), so things that wouldn't bother me in LOTR bother me here. It's hard to catch stuff when you're producing (or watching) a 4-hour movie. It's far easier to spot issues in a 10 to 15 minute-a-week web show. I still want Monty to release a "Volume 1, Remastered Edition" somewhere down the line that fixes all the bugs/animation issues/continuity errors.

      I just hate when I have to stop watching the awesome fight scenes - or when I become distracted from character arcs - because of the teleportation powers of "...a little black bow". Or Jaune's bruise coming back in Forever Fall. Or Yangs terrible layering with her chair in The Stray. Or the floating temple in Players and Peices. Or the fact that earlier in the same episode, Weiss moves from being somewhere right beside the Nevermore to hanging off it's claw, and then, upon slipping off it, doesn't use her "Landing Strategy" that was mentioned two episodes earlier. In RWBY time, it's literally been a few hours, max. Does Weiss have short-term memory loss or something?

      Now, don't get me wrong, I love the series... It's the things that stop me from loving certian parts that I hate. I want to say that RWBY is perfect... problem is, it's not. 

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    • Weiss didn't have time to use the landing strategy; if you consider how long she was falling before Jaune grabbed her, A) that wasn't very long and B) she must have been pretty close to the ground for Jaune to jump that high, even from a tree. And besides, given that she wasn't even hurt on landing, It's also possible she just didn't bother. People bring this up a lot, and I don't get why they're bothered, given that neither Ruby or Weiss were ever really in danger then.

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote:

      Or the fact that earlier in the same episode, Weiss moves from being somewhere right beside the Nevermore to hanging off it's claw, and then, upon slipping off it, doesn't use her "Landing Strategy" that was mentioned two episodes earlier. In RWBY time, it's literally been a few hours, max. Does Weiss have short-term memory loss or something?

      Now, don't get me wrong, I love the series... It's the things that stop me from loving certian parts that I hate. I want to say that RWBY is perfect... problem is, it's not. 

      That isn't so complicated. She did not have a firm enough hold on the Nevermore and slipped, but managed to grab on to the talon. As far as her landing strategy, although we now know the glyphs she used in it are her Semblance and not some aspect of Dust where the explanation for her not using it would be simpler, it is not clear how she uses her Semblance in the first place. She may not have been able to use it in free fall conditions where her maneuverability was limited.

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    • It seems to me, just from observation, that Weiss has to make specific hand movements in order to make a glyph. Ever notice that she moves her hand a certain way whenever she makes a glyph, as if she's casting a spell? That's one of the reasons we used to think she was using dust to make glyphs. We thought she was reaching to Myrtenaster and sprinkling dust, but really, she was waving her hand to "cast" it.

      When she helped Ruby take down the giant Nevermore in Players & Pieces, she displayed some pretty obvious hand movements, as well.

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    • Ren and Jaune need bro moments.

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    • Also, Oobleck needs a fight.

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    • I'm not convinced that Oobleck is a fighter. I think that some of the staff at Beacon are non-Hunters and he is one of them - probably a doctor of history as a career rather than a former Hunter.

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    • ^Monty actually mentioned via DVD commentary (I think?) that Oobleck has a weapon... and it's nuts.

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    • hmm, nuts, how about nuts that grimm find delicious.......that EXPLODE!

      or it could be a weapon that is relativly weak, but takes his speed into consideration, like, he makes a tiny cut and moves so fast nobody can hit him, letting him slowly cut them to ribbons

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    • 13th madman wrote:
      And besides, given that she wasn't even hurt on landing, It's also possible she just didn't bother. People bring this up a lot, and I don't get why they're bothered, given that neither Ruby or Weiss were ever really in danger then.

      Yeah, but Weiss is the kind of girl who would want to avoid all pain if possible. Even if the fall wouldn't have damaged her, it still would've hurt. I mean, I can see Yang doing something like that and just enjoying the fall (she would, considering her landing strategy), but it seems a little off-character for Weiss.

      And I can see Weiss not having the time to "cast" her glyphs, but it would seem like she did, with everyone noticing that she's fallling, Jaune being able to get out of the tree, realize Weiss's plight, jump, catch her, and then fall for a few more seconds. Weiss seems focused enough to pull off a glyph in that time frame.

      On the topic of Oobleck's weapon... I want it to be coffee beans, because that would be amazing.

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    • Oobleck's weapon? A weaponized version of a coffee grinder. 

      Also, Oobleck needs to say at least one Cabooseism as long as he's on the show. 
      Thatweapon
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    • As long as the coffie grinder has massive blades I'm good.

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    • how about coffe beans that make him move so fast that the rest of the word appears to stop moving, for offence, maybe some type of weapon that captalises on his speed

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    • Angren Túrë wrote:
      Oobleck's weapon? A weaponized version of a coffee grinder. 

      But instead of making coffee, it makes death.

      I'll go with that.

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    • "How to you take your death"

      "Uh... cream and five sugars!"

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    • xD 

      Oobleck needs his own thread. Like now. He's just so awesome...

      What if he normally fights with coffee, put switches to a more powerful dose when needed? Sort of like Ruby's Cross Clips. Piss of Oobleck and he'll drink DEATH MIX!!!! 

      [[1]]

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    • who know, when 2 season start?

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    • 37.214.174.50 wrote:
      who know, when 2 season start?

      We don't know yet.

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    • back to Oobleck's weapon.

      it NEEDS to take his speed into consideration, so it cant be large and heavy.

      maybe a small knife, making a small cut and dodging the attack only to make another cut at the same time?

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    • ^While that is logical, Ruby is also almost as fast as Oobleck, and she's carrying a scythe.

      So the size of the weapon may not be as relevant.

      ...Now I'm imagining Oobleck with a nodachi...

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote:
      37.214.174.50 wrote:
      who know, when 2 season start?
      We don't know yet.

      If we're being realistic, however, they're likely to do it in the same manner as RvB and release on an annual basis. 

      It's terrible to think about, and I could be completely wrong on this, but what reason do they have to do otherwise? because the fans are impatient? that's a rather flimsy argument.

      Monty has said that he lives by a set of rules when making things and sticking to those rules are one of the most important things about successful. not rushing your work just to satisfy your fans impatience seems like a breach in that protocol. 

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    • Eres - Mistress of Illusions wrote:

      Andrew S-997 wrote:
      37.214.174.50 wrote:
      who know, when 2 season start?
      We don't know yet.

      If we're being realistic, however, they're likely to do it in the same manner as RvB and release on an annual basis. 

      It's terrible to think about, and I could be completely wrong on this, but what reason do they have to do otherwise? because the fans are impatient? that's a rather flimsy argument.

      Monty has said that he lives by a set of rules when making things and sticking to those rules are one of the most important things about successful. not rushing your work just to satisfy your fans impatience seems like a breach in that protocol. 

      Of course, that is SEASON 2. VOLUME 2 is most likely sooner than that.

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    • Damn, I keep getting everything mixed up with those two. You're probably right, now that you've pointed that out.

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    • Well, Monty did say that he's trying to keep a balance between making it good and not making us wait too long. He has also said before that "This could've been better, but it would've taken longer."

      That said, I wouldn't be surprised if we had to wait until at least, maybe, April or May.

      I'd imagine that Velvet is going to be in Volume 2 in the tournament with her team, and if that's the case, then the Velvet battle outfit design contest will be preventing them from animating her parts in the episodes until they pick the winner and then model, texture, rig, etc. the outfit onto her.

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    • I was saying February/March, tbh, because they actually could animate her parts using a placeholder or a blank figure, then replace the placeholder with the finished model. After all, Monty was animating pieces for ep. 16 at the same time as the Red trailer. For all we know, he might do four more trailers (Team JNPR or CRDL, or maybe just events to fill the timeskip) and then release Volume 2 in May. We really cannot be predicting his actions on this.

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    • I really hope the RWBY team notices all of this waiting...

      The sheer number of people holding their patience for the next Volume...Damn. I'd hate to disappoint. Can't imagine what its like for the RWBY team right now.

      Though I'm also expecting something just as good, if not better, than Red vs Blue. =P

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    • I wouldn't mind Volume Two taking a year, as long as it's amazing (That is, more amazing that the first).

      However, realistically, I'd hope for Volume Two to start sometime in February.

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    • If it was just to hype the show and not be for volume two (in the way that RWBY trailers were for volume 1) I wouldn't be averse at all to seeing JNPR trailers. I want to see more combat from Pyrrha, personally. 

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    • I am thinking they could do two trailer-type things with one being a humorous training montage involving Pyrrha and Jaune and just something with Nora and Ren.

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    • Because with Nora involved, one need not look far to find humor. 

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    • Speaking of which, who else noticed the little extra scene during the Forever Fall chapter in the Volume 1 DVD/Blu-ray? Worth getting it for that alone.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      Speaking of which, who else noticed the little extra scene during the Forever Fall chapter in the Volume 1 DVD/Blu-ray? Worth getting it for that alone.

      Way to make me more impatient for Christmas. XP

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    • i just want to see jaune being able to walk ten feet without bumbing into something.  Or tripping over his own two feet.  Because everybody seems to so.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      Speaking of which, who else noticed the little extra scene during the Forever Fall chapter in the Volume 1 DVD/Blu-ray? Worth getting it for that alone.

      Yeah, I saw it; no great revelation but it was a nice little touch. I wonder if it was left out because it wasn't finished by the air date or if it originally was cut out as extraneous but Monty decided to put it back for the DVD.

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    • NO ONE is faster than Oobleck! Non-believers shall suffer death by caffeine.

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    • true fact. you can overdoes on caffeine and die. Oobleck better be careful.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      The Devil's Advocate WP wrote:
      Speaking of which, who else noticed the little extra scene during the Forever Fall chapter in the Volume 1 DVD/Blu-ray? Worth getting it for that alone.
      Way to make me more impatient for Christmas. XP

      ^ I second Chishio.

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    • Caffeine is the only possible way to remain human while teaching world history, no matter how interesting it seems on our side.

      ... Though then again, I'm always interested in world history, and especially those that were war-related.

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    • Depends on who you're teaching to, IMO. 

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    • 123.211.194.86 wrote:
      true fact. you can overdoes on caffeine and die. Oobleck better be careful.

      I've gone onto the very verge of having a caffeine overdose before, and it suuuucked.

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    • good thing i dont drink it then, on the other hand i keep on getting tired lately, maybe i should take up sleeping again?.........nah, ill be fine

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    • I slept enough but keep feeling sleepy regardless, and I have no idea why. This is getting disturbing.

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    • Oversleeping can actually lead to tiredness. No idea how much sleep you're talking about, but past about 11 hours can have this effect.

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    • 8 hours, 6 hours and 40 minutes the next day, so no, it's not oversleeping.

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    • There was an extra clip the last episode of the first season. Judging by how it appears, it seems there will be a new season, or they were planning on it. 

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    • 69.203.96.79 wrote: There was an extra clip the last episode of the first season. Judging by how it appears, it seems there will be a new season, or they were planning on it. 

      Are you kidding me? They already said, and have released little hints that Volume 2 is already being animated, and that season 2 is already being planned out. Hell, Monty has plans for the long-term. So yeah, there WILL be a new season.... and also the rest of this one.

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    • 69.203.96.79 wrote:
      There was an extra clip the last episode of the first season. Judging by how it appears, it seems there will be a new season, or they were planning on it. 

      That wasn't the last episode of the season, by the way. It was the last episode of the volume. Volume 1 is only half of season 1.

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    • I always have a good laugh at the notion that we even have to look for evidence that there will be more RWBY. It's easily the most successful thing RT has ever done...

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    • XDex wrote:
      I always have a good laugh at the notion that we even have to look for evidence that there will be more RWBY. It's easily the most successful thing RT has ever done...

      To add to all the hype I suppose? Indeed. Its working quite well.

      People just want to be sure that RWBY will be something worth looking forward to in the future. And I want to hope all of this is worth it.

      May RT take all the time they need, despite how agonizing this wait is. Can't imagine them disappointing us now.

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    • RWBY has been officially canceled.










      I wonder how many hearts skipped a beat.

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    • Zol, in order to pull that off, you need fake twitter screencaptures. Then maybe people will believe you. Otherwise, it's not true.

      For example, I could say that I have Ruby living in my garage, and that she helps me get to and from work. Everyone loves her, and wonders how I keep her looking so good.

      This is all completely true, because I named my car Ruby. But, if I said that without this explanation, it is just as impossible to prove as your statement. Although it's a bazillion times more disturbing.

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    • His heart skipped a bit.

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    • Zolnir wrote: His heart skipped a bit.

      And you came up with that from reading my response? I know you have no authority, and if it was true, it would be all over the fanbase. One person saying that is like one person saying that "Marvel Studios has cancelled Avengers 2". Firstly, the fanbase would be all over it. Secondly, it's a moronic idea from a financial point of view. RWBY is bringing in hundreds more views to Rooster Teeth than any of their previous things. Hell, it's basically broken into the internet psyche, alongside Red vs. Blue. Rooster Teeth makes money off sales, which includes RWBY merchandise, and from advertising, which is generated by views that RWBY brings with it.

      TL;DR version - Next time, put some effort into your lies, and pull the other one. It's got bells on.

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    • lol.

      I thought it was pretty funny. I know someone out there is going to freak out and look at every piece of RWBY Volume 2 evidence just to revalidate their hopes before realizing that they already know theres more RWBY coming.

      Of course, they'd never admit it. =P

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    • I never understood why he took my joke seriously, but whatever.

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    • Lol, my heart skipped a beat and I was scrolling up, so I already knew something was coming. Just admit it flashfire, for a moment you got the slightest feeling of dread before your reason took hold and you are upset about that.

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    • Well, yeah. I admit, just reading the words made me panic for that split-second it took for me to process them. I wouldn't say skipped a beat, but still. This is what we do during hiatus, so it's excusable. 

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    • I have sarcasm and joking x-ray vision, so clearly it didn't affect me.

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    • The Devil's Advocate WP wrote: Lol, my heart skipped a beat and I was scrolling up, so I already knew something was coming. Just admit it flashfire, for a moment you got the slightest feeling of dread before your reason took hold and you are upset about that.

      Nope, I previewed the message. E-mail subscription showed me the full thing before I commented, so I had already seen his punchline. I was just giving him an idea for a method that is more believable.

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    • I'm making a joke; I'm not trying to con the world.

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    • when is next season

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    • If only I knew for sure, I wouldn't be dogging every new RT announcement vid to get an update on RWBY.

      So...Clearly the ambiguity is working out for them. This is quite agonizing. =.='

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    • 96.42.253.125 wrote:
      when is next season

      Unknown at the moment. My guess? Around Red Vs Blue Season 12 Maybe? Several Characters are getting/have new rigs. And animation takes time.

      We will find out at RTX

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    • It should still take less time than the first volume. I would hope for an eventual cycle that led to 2 volumes/one season per year.

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    • At the risk of seeming negative, I'm wondering if the 'two volumes in season 1' plan has been dumped as logistically impossible and they're just going to turn volume 2 into season 2.

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    • BenRG wrote:
      At the risk of seeming negative, I'm wondering if the 'two volumes in season 1' plan has been dumped as logistically impossible and they're just going to turn volume 2 into season 2.

      That would be dreadful.

      I'd like RT to work on RWBY for as much as they can, and for as long as they can. If we're deprived of content for the just for sake of other shows, I would likely stop being a fan; RWBY is what got me to come back to them.

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    • Immersible wrote:

      BenRG wrote:
      At the risk of seeming negative, I'm wondering if the 'two volumes in season 1' plan has been dumped as logistically impossible and they're just going to turn volume 2 into season 2.

      That would be dreadful.

      I'd like RT to work on RWBY for as much as they can, and for as long as they can. If we're deprived of content for the just for sake of other shows, I would likely stop being a fan; RWBY is what got me to come back to them.

      Actually, they're putting a lot of resources into it. Consider Red vs. Blue Season 10. It was epic, full of CGI work and decent combat scenes. Season 11? Yeah, it's almost a reskin of season 1 in layout. Why? Well, the animators had a new project. RWBY. What we're seeing is that their other web series lost content for the new one, and that new one pulls fans like mad. Will they turn Volume 2 into Season 2? Doubt it. Monty chose a strange time to retool rigs, but as they build pace and models faster, I think we'll see episodes growing longer and better. After all, every break they take from airing, they're most likely still animating.

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    • Monty simply retool his rigs because Poser Pro 2014 was out, lol. Remember that he's a unique animator; he does things by his own pace and choices that might not make sense to the other animators or most people out there (I'm sure someone gasped in horror when he said he hated maths to death, and demonstrated with some examples such as using 2 clubs rather than Reflection when building Yellow Trailer).


      EDIT: At least we're guaranteed RWBY in year 2014 by Monty.

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    • i hope thats right about being promised in 2014 my friend and i almost passed out when the volume was done seemed so sudden

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    • Actually, they're putting a lot of resources into it. Consider Red vs. Blue Season 10. It was epic, full of CGI work and decent combat scenes. Season 11? Yeah, it's almost a reskin of season 1 in layout. Why? Well, the animators had a new project. RWBY. What we're seeing is that their other web series lost content for the new one, and that new one pulls fans like mad.

      Wow...Now I don't know what to feel. Guilty? Happy? At least I know Monty is working hard. I like RvB just as much as RWBY, but since they're both vying for Monty's attention...Do they have to be constantly competing like this?

      I don't want RvB fans to start hating RWBY for depriving them of their action; I fear one day it may come to this.

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    • I think most RvB fans are kind of glad to get back to the basics honestly (at least I am). The CGI and stuff was cool, but I sort of felt that it didn't belong in RvB. I like the simplicity of the basic machinima style. Personally, I was glad for that in season 11. 

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    • Bill2401 wrote:
      I think most RvB fans are kind of glad to get back to the basics honestly (at least I am). The CGI and stuff was cool, but I sort of felt that it didn't belong in RvB. I like the simplicity of the basic machinima style. Personally, I was glad for that in season 11. 

      Really?Because alit of the youtube fans seem to be disappointed with it.:P

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    • 186.45.67.200 wrote:
      Bill2401 wrote:
      I think most RvB fans are kind of glad to get back to the basics honestly (at least I am). The CGI and stuff was cool, but I sort of felt that it didn't belong in RvB. I like the simplicity of the basic machinima style. Personally, I was glad for that in season 11. 
      Really?Because alit of the youtube fans seem to be disappointed with it.:P
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    • 186.45.67.200 wrote:
      Bill2401 wrote:
      I think most RvB fans are kind of glad to get back to the basics honestly (at least I am). The CGI and stuff was cool, but I sort of felt that it didn't belong in RvB. I like the simplicity of the basic machinima style. Personally, I was glad for that in season 11. 
      Really?Because alit of the youtube fans seem to be disappointed with it.:P

      I wonder just how many of the Youtube fans were watching Red vs Blue before there even was a Youtube.

      I think the CGI stuff was freakin' awesome, and it definitely suited the freelancer scenes, but the reds and blues don't really need it.

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    • I think you folk are lying to yourselves if you say Red vs Blue is better "returning to the basics".

      Admit it.

      At this point, its hard to imagine Red vs Blue without the action scenes anymore. If you try to from now on, it will viewed as subpar or a "set-up" to a season with real action scenes; exactly how most people view RvB season 11. I don't believe for a second that the RvB community could honestly prefer the drama over the action.

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    • ur right there is a 2014 series

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    • 96.42.253.125 wrote:
      ur right there is a 2014 series

      wut...?

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    • Immersible wrote:

      I don't believe for a second that the RvB community could honestly prefer the drama over the action.

      From what I've seen in the comments of the Game Time Burnie had with Monty, it's not that they prefer the drama over the action...

      It's that the comedy has been shafted for the action. The drama happened almost around the same time Monty popped up, and a minority of fans are actually blaming him for making the series go serious.

      ...When it's been serious since Season 6.

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    • Maki Kuronami wrote:
      Immersible wrote:
      I don't believe for a second that the RvB community could honestly prefer the drama over the action.
      From what I've seen in the comments of the Game Time Burnie had with Monty, it's not that they prefer the drama over the action...

      It's that the comedy has been shafted for the action. The drama happened almost around the same time Monty popped up, and a minority of fans are actually blaming him for making the series go serious.

      ...When it's been serious since Season 6.

      Ah, but its a minority of fans. Theres just simply no way in hell I can see RvB giving up their action scenes and expecting the majority audience to accept it quietly.

      I mean, the story is great and all. But I think most people have become attuned to the action and may have something new to rant about along with season 11. We may see even more of a disparity between preferencing the old RvB and the new RvB if its not already happening.

      Thus I fear for RWBY if it ever becomes the center of blame for RvB's loss of action scenes.

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    • Immersible wrote:
      Maki Kuronami wrote:
      Immersible wrote:
      I don't believe for a second that the RvB community could honestly prefer the drama over the action.
      From what I've seen in the comments of the Game Time Burnie had with Monty, it's not that they prefer the drama over the action...

      It's that the comedy has been shafted for the action. The drama happened almost around the same time Monty popped up, and a minority of fans are actually blaming him for making the series go serious.

      ...When it's been serious since Season 6.

      Ah, but its a minority of fans. Theres just simply no way in hell I can see RvB giving up their action scenes and expecting the majority audience to accept it quietly.

      I mean, the story is great and all. But I think most people have become attuned to the action and may have something new to rant about along with season 11. We may see even more of a disparity between preferencing the old RvB and the new RvB if its not already happening.

      Thus I fear for RWBY if it ever becomes the center of blame for RvB's loss of action scenes.

      Assuming that the action scene's are going away.Remember the CGI was mainly for the freelancer stuff.Now seeing as that story line is now over they could simply just be giving the viewers a taste of the good ole days while they get a new story going.

      However this would also that we may have to wait longer then expected for RWBY.Since they have two shows to animate now.:P

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    • I, personally, hope RvB starts a whole knew, several season-spanning story arc. A few seasons of slap-stick comedy, and some light backstory. Then everything gets tied together, Sh*t goes down, and the action happens. Finally, the story wraps up with some more comedy and the like. You know, like the first 10 seasons. They should just start another 10-year story. It would make the show just that much more legendary.

      Plus, the lull in action during the first few seasons will allow RWBY to be that much more awesome.

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    • I have a feeling that we won't see any animation for RvB for a good 3 or 4 seasons at the least, but They may bring it back when animating RWBY becomes more efficient, and they have more animators on staff.

      And I don't think RvB needs Montys attention right now. Sure, I was disappointed not to see it, but they did a fine job making the battles tences without it.

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    • I don't really see what the problem is. RvB has been around for over a decade and did well enough before the CGI as it ever did. The simple fact is that if you didn't like it before the action scenes then I don't think that they would do much for you. For true fans, however, it was just icing on the cake. Now that it's gone, people might be disappointed, but I don't think that it'll have major reprecussions. 

      This is of course assuming that Monty, bless him for his work ethic, doesn't find some way to juggle both. 

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    • i ment that his twitter said that he's doing a 2014 volume or season at same time as they worked on season 12 of R VS B

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    • the endding of episode 16 past the credits is proof thats theres another volume of season 

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    • 96.42.253.125 wrote:
      the endding of episode 16 past the credits is proof thats theres another volume of season 

      i dont think there is going to be another one because they are taking so long

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    • It's actually in production right now.

      Hey, random idea. How about someone create an official page for Volume Two and somehow get that into the "Featured article" spot on the front page? Make the description something like "coming in 2014" just so people know that it is happening.

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    • i agree andrew i dont know how to creat website yet will soon and 173.165.128.130 monty said at animation pannel in alstralia that hes hoping for 7 seasons all of them are in head he said

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    • no one worry

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    • 96.42.253.125 wrote:
      i agree andrew i dont know how to creat website yet will soon and 173.165.128.130 monty said at animation pannel in alstralia that hes hoping for 7 seasons all of them are in head he said

      Not a website, a page on this wiki.

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    • That would be a good idea. I still find it funny that there's any doubt, when it was announced from the start that the first season would be two volumes.

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    • I would just do it, but I don't want it getting taken down by on of the ever-on-guard wiki higher-ups who thinks it's trolling. I feel like we'd have to notify everyone first, and I don't know how to get the word out.

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    • If that website ever works out...

      It seems almost like free advertising for RWBY volume* 2. I'd think RT would definitely appreciate word going around and a bigger audience.

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    • yeah now im bored to heck i have to wait for new season 

      at least i can messege others while i wait

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    • Andrew S-997 wrote:
      I would just do it, but I don't want it getting taken down by on of the ever-on-guard wiki higher-ups who thinks it's trolling. I feel like we'd have to notify everyone first, and I don't know how to get the word out.

      Maybe ask Nedz, I guess.

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    • yeah ask Nedz

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    • And don't forget to include that volume 2 is the second half of season 1.

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    • is there only one volume or is thwere 2 voulmes

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    • 96.42.253.125 wrote:
      is there only one volume or is thwere 2 voulmes

      One so far. Two total planned for the first season. Many more to come after that.

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    • yeah monty at the animator panel said he plans for 7 seasons

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    • 96.42.253.125 wrote:
      yeah monty at the animator panel said he plans for 7 seasons

      This true? 

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    • i demand a movie.

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    • 173.58.251.107 wrote:
      96.42.253.125 wrote:
      yeah monty at the animator panel said he plans for 7 seasons
      This true? 

      Most likely. I've seen a tweet from him where he said he has at least 5 seasons planned out.

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    • ChishioKunrin wrote:
      173.58.251.107 wrote:
      96.42.253.125 wrote:
      yeah monty at the animator panel said he plans for 7 seasons
      This true? 
      Most likely. I've seen a tweet from him where he said he has at least 5 seasons planned out.

      Can anyone post a link to confirm this? I follow his Twitter too and this is the first I'm hearing of this.

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